From the HSLDA E-lert Service:


1/13/2012 5:05:43 PM
Home School Legal Defense Association
Washington: More Action Needed on Third-Party Visitation Bill!

From the HSLDA E-lert Service...

More Action Needed on Third-Party Visitation Bill!

Dear HSLDA Members and Friends:

We have just learned that House Bill 2193 is scheduled for an
executive session in the House Judiciary Committee for Thursday,
January 19, 2012. This means that the bill could be passed out of the
committee at that time. As you may recall, House Bill 2193 is a "third
party visitation bill" that would allow any person who "has
established an ongoing and substantial relationship with the child" to
petition the court to allow them to have visitation rights with that
child--even if the parent objects.

If you have not already done so, we need you to contact the House
Judiciary Committee now and voice your opposition to the bill. While
House Bill 2193 is not a "homeschool" bill, it has the potential to
negatively impact parental rights in Washington. Under House Bill 2193
any single parent or married couple who are temporarily living apart
(for instance, due to a job or for financial reasons) could face the
threat of a petition for third-party visitation.

Additionally, anyone who could show he had a relationship with the
child for at least one year through interaction, companionship, and
mutuality could petition the court for visitation rights. There would
be no requirement that the person be related to the child.

At the public hearing on January 11, several individuals and groups,
including Christian Homeschool Network of Washington (CHNOW) testified
against the bill. However, a number of people testified in favor of
the bill. We need your calls and emails to help defeat this bill!

Action Requested

1) Please call and email the House Judiciary Committee members listed
below and give them this message in your own words:

"Please oppose House Bill 2193. This bill interferes with parents'
fundamental right to direct the care, custody, and control of their
children. No parents should have to have their parental decision on
who visits their children challenged court. Allowing any person who
has formed a relationship with the child and family to be able to
petition the court for visitation rights is outrageous.

Additionally, this bill would allow courts to determine visitation in
situations where the family is still intact, jeopardizing family
integrity. Please vote against House Bill 2193 and ensure that it is

You do not need to identify yourself as a homeschooler; instead you
can identify yourself as a concerned parent and taxpayer. Please let
the legislator know if you are in their district.

House Judiciary Committee Members

Rep. Jamie Pedersen--Chair (D) (sponsor of HB 2193)
Phone: (360) 786-782

Rep. Roger Goodman--Vice Chair (D) (sponsor of HB 2193)
Phone: (360) 786-7878

Rep. Jay Rodne (R)
Phone: (360) 786-7852

Rep. Matt Shea (R)
Phone: (360) 786-7984

Rep. Bruce Chandler (R)
Phone: (360)786-7960

Rep. Deb Eddy (D) (sponsor of HB 2193)
Phone: (360) 786-7848

Rep. Drew Hanson (D)
Phone: (360) 786-7842

Rep. Steve Kirby (D)
Phone: (360) 786-7996

Rep. Brad Klippert (R)
Phone: (360) 786-7882

Rep. Terry Nealey (R) (sponsor of HB 2193)
Phone: (360) 786-7828

Rep. Tina Orwall (D) (sponsor of HB 2193)
Phone: (360) 786-7834

Rep. Ann Rivers (R) (sponsor of HB 2193)
Phone: (360) 786-7850

Rep. Mary Helen Roberts (D) (sponsor of HB 2193)
Phone: (360) 786-7950


Over the years, HSLDA has represented member families in conflict with
grandparents and other relatives who did not like homeschooling. These
relatives would occasionally try to stop the homeschooling through
various means, including turning the family over to child welfare
services. Thankfully, most grandparents we encounter at HSLDA support
homeschooling and in some situations even participate in the teaching.

However, House Bill 2193 would allow any third party to sue the parent
for visitation rights. If this bill becomes law, a person could
petition the court for visitation rights when both parents are
together and not only when there is a pending dissolution, legal
separation, or modification of a parenting plan proceeding.

On the surface these bills appear to protect parents' rights by
acknowledging that the decision of a fit parent is presumed to be in
the child's best interest. However, the petitioner is only required to
demonstrate that he or she had a "significant relationship" with the
child and that the child would likely suffer harm or substantial risk
of harm if visitation with the third party is not awarded. This places
the court in the position of deciding whether the parent was justified
in limiting contact with the third party.

House Bill 2193 is identical to a bill that was introduced back in the
2010 legislative session, House Bill 2421. With your calls in
opposition and the hard work of people on the ground, that bill was
defeated. Please contact the legislators listed above to help us
defeat this bill once again.

We greatly value you and your support--it is a privilege to serve you!
If you or someone you know is not a member of HSLDA, will you consider
taking a moment today to join or recommend us and support our work
defending individual families threatened by government officials and
protecting homeschooling freedom for all? Join

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Thank you for your part in fighting for freedom in Washington!


Thomas J. (Tj) Schmidt
HSLDA Staff Attorney

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